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Talkative Soul and Difficult Prayer
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21 June 2012 at 10:57

Saint Faustina: The Lord gave me to know how DISPLEASED He is with a TALKATIVE soul.
"I find NO REST in such a soul. The constant din tires Me, and in the midst of it the soul CANNOT DISCERN My voice." (Dairy 1008)

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Sandy Leong I think here Jesus means a soul who prays but at the same time is thinking about or planning other things. Also, what it could be is that when the soul is praying, it just asks and asks and does not spend time in contempletative prayer when God can enlighten and speak to the soul.

Michael Hii hmm... TALKATIVE SOUL = ??

Michael Hii For St Theresa of Lisieux, just turning her head, looking up to Jesus on the Cross, that was her PRAYER. nobody talked, yet the LOVE is perfectly felt, by both...

Val Harry Yes. As in 1 Samuel 3:10 " Speak, Lord, for thy servant is listening "..

Sandy Leong Brother Val Harry, you are right (your quote from the Holy Scripture)! Blessed Mother say similar with the Scripture : "Before you speak, it is necessary for you to listen, for God speaks in the silence of the heart."

Sandy Leong Jesus told Saint Faustina Kowalska : "...STRIVE for a life of recollection so that you can HEAR My voice, which is SO SOFT that ONLY recollected souls CAN hear it." (Dairy 1779)
"But, in order to hear the voice of God, one has to have SILENCE in one's soul and to keep silence ; not a gloomy silence, BUT an interior silence ; that is to say, RECOLLECTION in God." (Diary 118)

Maryleflyna Dau William Being At Home page 139
Through Christian Meditation we “be at home” with God who is at our very centers. Our relationship with the Transcendent (superior or supreme in excellence, surpassing others) God is generally mediated through devotions and sacraments. Our relationship with the Incarnate God is generally mediated through involvement and action with people and the world. In these relationships we can often be “Marthas,” busy about many things.
Our relationship with the Immanent (indwelling) God is without any mediation, it is direct. This is what mystical means, it is entirely simple and uncomplicated. It is to be a “Mary”, to choose the one thing necessary, to be hospitable to the Lord, to be at home with Him, and then to move out into the world from that relationship.

Sandy Leong Saint Faustina : "A talkative soul lacks both the essential virtues and intimacy with God. A deeper interior life,one of gentle peace and of that silence where the Lord dwells, is quite out of the question. A soul that has never tasted the sweetness of inner silence is a restless spirit which disturbs the silence of others."

Michael Hii We must learn to LISTEN to the voice of GOD... like the encounter of Elijah, God came as a GENTLE BREEZE, not in the strong wind, earthquake or the fire, but in the gentle breeze...

Michael Hii ‎1 KING 19:The encounter with God
19:9 There he went into the cave and spent the night in it. Then the word of Yahweh came to him saying, 'What are you doing here, Elijah?'
19:10 He replied, 'I am filled with jealous zeal for Yahweh Sabaoth, because the sons of Israel have deserted you, broken down your altars and put your prophets to the sword. I am the only one left, and they want to kill me.'
19:11 Then he was told, 'Go out and stand on the mountain before Yahweh'. Then Yahweh himself went by. There came a mighty wind, so strong it tore the mountains and shattered the rocks before Yahweh. But Yahweh was not in the wind. After the wind came an earthquake. But Yahweh was not in the earthquake.
19:12 After the earthquake came a fire. But Yahweh was not in the fire. And after the fire there came the sound of a gentle breeze.
19:13 And when Elijah heard this, he covered his face with his cloak and went out and stood at the entrance of the cave. Then a voice came to him, which said, 'What are you doing here, Elijah?'
19:14 He replied, 'I am filled with jealous zeal for Yahweh Sabaoth, because the sons of Israel have deserted you, broken down your altars and put your prophets to the sword. I am the only one left and they want to kill me.'
19:15 'Go,' Yahweh said 'go back by the same way to the wilderness of Damascus. You are to go and anoint Hazael as king of Aram.
19:16 You are to anoint Jehu son of Nimshi as king of Israel, and to anoint Elisha son of Shaphat, of Abel Meholah, as prophet to succeed you.
19:17 Anyone who escapes the sword of Hazael will be put to death by Jehu; and anyone who escapes the sword of Jehu will be put to death by Elisha.
19:18 But I shall spare seven thousand in Israel: all the knees that have not bent before Baal, all the mouths that have not kissed him.'



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21 June 2012 at 11:06

[ Our salvation often depends on such difficult prayers - perseverance ]

Jesus told Saint Faustina Kowalska : "In the evening, when I entered the small chapel, I heard these words in my soul :
My daughter, consider these words : "AND BEING IN AGONY, HE PRAYED MORE EARNESTLY."
When I started to THINK about them more deeply, much light streamed into my soul.
I LEARNED how much we need PERSEVERANCE IN PRAYER and that our SALVATION often DEPENDS on such DIFFICULT prayer." (Diary 157)


Maryleflyna Dau William My Lord have mercy on me. I just can't imagine your agony at this moment. Please help me to love like you.

Michael Hii When we persevere in our prayers, we become TALKATIVE, when we persevere in our listening, Jesus become TALKATIVE, but when we persevere in listening, and Jesus also persevere in listening both in dead silence, maybe this is the most DIFFICULT prayer, and yet our salvation depends on it.

Sandy Leong You are so funny Brother Michael. You have cracked a joke. LOL!

Michael Hii Amen

Pauline Siong Life is hard, uncle Michael Hii. I read and re-read what you wrote. You must have given so much thought on the above post and the post on talkative souls that light streamed into your soul. For that I call you uncle. You have the chance to practice silence tomorrow. Have a blessed visit.

Maryleflyna Dau William Some essentials of John Main's teaching
Modern people are very alienated within themselves. Through meditation, they take the focus of attention off themselves and become restored to their own centers.
At their own centers they become present to the prayer of the Holy Spirit that dwells within each one of us. This puts them in touch with great energy and leads to fullness of life.
Source: Seed Silence and Sacrament by Gerry Pierse C.SS. R.
I did not feel like writing today. Then I heard a voice in my soul: My daughter, you do not live for yourself but for souls; write for their benefit........ [Diary of St Faustina.]

Pauline Siong Thanks Maryleflyna Dau William for all of your good sharings.

Pauline Siong Sandy Leong, post some more to activate uncle Michael Hii to reflect on so we can glean from the light that streamed into his soul.

Michael Hii Some people LIVE TO EAT, some people EAT TO LIVE... For Faustina, Jesus told her to LIVE FOR SOULS, that is to save souls !

Sandy Leong This is when we have learned to be quiet but also suffering great spiritual dryness and attacks of the devil (trying to get us to doubt or torturing us with temptations). We are in such a sorry state we truly need to hear a Word for God and yet .... it doesn't come. Many (most or all) of the saints experienced this. During the trials, are Faith becomes very pure for we have nothing to rely on to bolster us and God seems to not be doing anything to help us? (though, of course, He is helping us and is near to us. Just we're not aware of it!). This is what Jesus was experiencing on the cross when He said, 'My God! My God, why have You forsaken Me!' Our salvation is achieved by God by our FAITH - our trusting in His goodness and power to save. One who believes (trusts) when there appears to be no reason to do so truly has great faith and is SAVED! Obviously only the ones who are truly very strong in Faith are allowed to experience such terrible trials and test of Faith.

Pauline Siong Thanks sis, your last comment is very helpful and encouraging.





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